Banned - Ouch!?

And now, my friends, whoever you may claim to be, I am a social outcast.

Are you trying to say that you did not expect it????? You do have a way of finding buttons to push. Come on admit it gives you a sense of pride to be banned from such a place.

I got some good reasons too, "You are a liablility," was my favorite; with Faust it was always "I know you."

The herd finds ways of excluding what is detrimental to its harmony.

it's excuses are only meant to maintain the illusion that it is, at the same time, remaining loyal to its own ideals.

So, Faust can pretend to be an open-minded liberal, free-thinker, and then find ways to explain why he is also discriminating, censoring and denying access to some while accepting mediocrity in every other case.
He enjoys the idea that he's some hippie, anti-establishment intellectual, when all he really is is a different kind of conformist, fearful sheep trying to be a sheep dog because the wolves scare the shit out of him.

Like Tabula Rasa, he finds humor to be the best way of dismissing this awareness from his consciousness and from becomnig obviuos to all but the sheep he defends because he shares in their terror and in their simplicity.

kriswest wrote:

Are you trying to say that you did not expect it????? You do have a way of finding buttons to push. Come on admit it gives you a sense of pride to be banned from such a place.

Weakness never gives me pride.

I am tired of seeing all others around me fail, including Satyr.

I want to see people become strong. I would prefer others to be strong where I am not.


I am continually disappointed.

All men to me seem as little boys. All women to me seem as little girls.


I am continually disappointed.

Damn, that is strong!

I am curious ,, how the heck does someone figure you have redeeming grace or not??? WTF did you actually do??? Seems an odd reason to ban someone, a really stupid one. It sounds so 18th century foppish. If I got that message I would have been laughing my butt off. You are not missing anything if that is the best they can come up with.

We all get disapointed with those around us and ourselves. If you wish to help others and make them stronger, then you might think about different tactics since the ones you employ are not working.

Don't feel bad. I've been banned from all philosophy websites on the net.

There is atleast 25 of them in total.

I must admit that it is a odd sense of pride.

Magsj wrote:

realunoriginal wrote:

So Magsj,

Do you happen to know why Imp banned my name Unreasonable?

If you do not know, then nevermind. Don't ask him. I don't want this name to be banned please.


Just wondering. I probably will not post again publicly.

Hi RU,

As you may well have noticed, there has been a lot of disruption on the boards in the last few weeks, and I guess if you don't want your user-name 'realunoriginal to be banned, then don't be disruptive - simple math, me thinks...

Take care, and try to enjoy the holiday season - Mags

Magsj, moderator of ILP, in PMs.

kriswest wrote:

I am curious ,, how the heck does someone figure you have redeeming grace or not??? WTF did you actually do??? Seems an odd reason to ban someone, a really stupid one. It sounds so 18th century foppish. If I got that message I would have been laughing my butt off. You are not missing anything if that is the best they can come up with.

We all get disapointed with those around us and ourselves. If you wish to help others and make them stronger, then you might think about different tactics since the ones you employ are not working.

No, I understand that.

What I think happened was that ILP realized it could not defend itself against my arguments, regardless of what my arguments entailed (which was essentially nothing). Because nobody could effectively argue with me and demonstrate their knowledge, it risks others, namely the ILP moderators from actually moderating or administrating their own website. For example, if it were to be the case that I represented a higher authority regarding their reason (which may not be true), then I would pose a threat to all of the discussions that take place on ILP.

Because the issues/topics I was planning to discuss were controversial, explicit, and almost too much to bear, I see that ILP simply did not nor could not bare it.

I want to know why incest is "wrong". I want to know why rape is "wrong". I want to know why murder is "wrong".

Because nobody can tell me things, or, in other words, nobody represents a Moral Authority that I must respect, everybody that associates with Society or merely a social group (ILP) must secede all arguments to me even if I claim to authoritate anything, right or wrong! This is a dangerous fact about philosophy, debate, and discussion. If you have powerful intellects colliding, like Atheism v Theism, for example, then the wins and losses become real and actual...

...you actually have the power to truly persuade people of your points, one way or another. That is a problem when what you confront may or may not be actually damaging to the social institution attached to the conversation. For the West, attached to its Christian-Hypocrisy rhetoric and ideologies, ILP represents a transition of heightened hypocrisy: namely the Christian-Transhumanist ideal. Atheism is the front, the front door. It gives ILP the illusion of "free thought", "rationality", and empirical "scientific" reasoning based on Evidence. But, these are all allusions to a more grandiose claim. -- that ILP truly represents a more Christian Nihilism under its surface. And ex-Christian Nihilists are welcomed first-and-foremost, Aidan, Joker, myself, for example, maybe?

But, in the end, the website itself, a philosophy forum on the internet, like all other social groups & institutions exist to use and absorb knowledge into a collective source or wealth. Once an individual becomes devoured and/or too threatening, then they may be thrown out freely, expelled. Honestly, I was not too surprised. Regardless, it happened either way.

I would like to know the reasons myself. I will not be so "lucky".

Ok, Well from my point of view they are deemed wrong due to the unhealthy nature of those actions. Morality is just a reinfocement of observations of damage done.

When a body feels damage it seeks to repair itself. It then tries to prevent further attacks by using its immune system. Society is no different really. It is a body that seeks to make itself healthy. If it realizes certain actions cause more damage than good it creates an antibody to defend against it. Morality and laws are those antibodies.

If you want to know why incest is unhealthy go to the black hills of Kentucky, you will see prime examples of it,, just don't expect to leave again,, those folks hate strangers. You might leave if you are attached to a known missionary church. No I am not being bigoted here, its been well documented. A great many way back in those hills are more brain damaged and physically impaired than should be, incest has a root cause in it.

Rape harms the persons involved and those around them. The person that is raped has people that are affected mentally by this attack and the person that is raped is harmed. heck wars have started because of the act. men kill the women that have been raped because she disgraced them by being raped. A child born from rape is regarded as a lowlife creature in many cases.

Murder well,, that depends upon the murder. Some killings are right, some are not. Each is case by case IMO.

If you're curious, this is her, http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mags3ou8.jpg .

So that's the legendary magsj in all her glory. Hmm. For someone who claims she's not black but 'caribbean' or exotic whatever she sure looks it to me.

Magsj!

That was a nice stunt you pulled, Gida.

You must find me that much of a threat...

Who is Gida?

Why do you ask this question in my thread Aidan?

Because I have a feeling someone who was banned on ILP came back onto the boards with the username "Gida".

It's not me if that is what you are implying by coming into my thread to posit this question.

But you are right; it is probably Satyr or one of his lackies. It is entertaining to watch at ILP. That place is a mess.

In fact, Aidan, if you are asking me personally, then just ask outright next time. I don't care.

No, I didn't think it was you. I just didn't want to start a topic on this.

But yes, I think it is either No-one or Satyr.

Nevermind. Hopefully, Gida will respond in PM.

There is no limit to the depth of a man's depravity:

I hope this site doesn't turn into a ghetto of misfits; because when you live in a ghetto, you can't get any more fresh air than when you live in the metropole.

If ILP deleted all of my posts as RU/UR, then they would be doing me a huge honor and favor.

They would never do such a thing, although I would thank them for it.

that begs the question : Do you want to be tied in any way?

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