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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: The art of Impious Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:46 pm | |
| confused art (I was trying to draw a cobra...) - Wonderer on ilovephilosophy.com wrote:
- i call it an Alien Egyptian Pharaoh with a crack pipe
Knowd Wrong part 1 Knowd Wrong part 2 ('That's better!') The Lightning Bolt of Truth (PS I drew this a few years ago whilst in a mental institution)
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Taras Active Idealist
Number of posts : 83 Location : Maidan Nezalezhnosti Registration date : 2009-01-03
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:47 pm | |
| Encore! Encore! moar - Impious wrote:
Knowd Wrong part 1 I've been wondering about this image since first seeing it. Help me out. What does this mean? Why is "Knowd Wrong part 2" 'better'? It has something to do with this fact, | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:47 pm | |
| Yes, your picture is the crux of part 2. Someone has drawn a smiley face on the subject with a crayon- 'That's better!'
PS it's a person who's 'knowd wrong'. A large dose of acid might help you understand.
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Taras Active Idealist
Number of posts : 83 Location : Maidan Nezalezhnosti Registration date : 2009-01-03
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:52 pm | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:54 pm | |
| The person is all screwed-up, head included. But in part 2 he has a nice happy smiley face, so everything's OK.
PS my previous post has been edited. | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Sun Feb 15, 2009 5:34 pm | |
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Dako Active Idealist
Number of posts : 99 Registration date : 2009-02-08
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:01 am | |
| - Impious wrote:
- No, I mean to experience being 'knowd wrong' yourself.
It is a self-portrait? | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:32 pm | |
| To be honest, I've only experienced that sort of thing on a small scale. | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:22 pm | |
| Fashion for my icehead brothers in North America (PS for the record, I don't do meth anymore) | |
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-Psychonaut Active Idealist
Number of posts : 67 Registration date : 2009-01-16
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:19 pm | |
| - Quote :
- A large dose of acid might help you understand.
Might is the operative word. There is no reason to assume that people perceive similarly to you in the day to day, so why assume that when you twist your head upside out they will perceive similarly? The effects of hallucinogens are wide and varied. Some themes do tend to prevail, but there is no recognisable way of predicting which will or will not in a given case. Brain chemistry, brain architecture, cultural awareness, perceptiveness, acuity... all these things and more will determine what you allow yourself to show yourself. Do you have the balls to look deep into the smoke and keep on staring until you see? Know this, whatever you see, it is you through and through. | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:26 pm | |
| - -Psychonaut wrote:
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- A large dose of acid might help you understand.
Might is the operative word.
There is no reason to assume that people perceive similarly to you in the day to day, so why assume that when you twist your head upside out they will perceive similarly? The whole thing is about perception. In this case the guy is perceiving his body being twisted etc in strange ways, and perhaps even the observer is seeing something weird taking place. Of course his body is not actually all screwed up. The suggestion that it is is just to spook (ignorant) people. - Quote :
- The effects of hallucinogens are wide and varied. Some themes do tend to prevail, but there is no recognisable way of predicting which will or will not in a given case. Brain chemistry, brain architecture, cultural awareness, perceptiveness, acuity... all these things and more will determine what you allow yourself to show yourself. Do you have the balls to look deep into the smoke and keep on staring until you see? Know this, whatever you see, it is you through and through.
I'm not suggesting this happens on every trip. But it has happened to me to a small extent once or twice and could happen to anyone, be they on drugs or not. | |
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-Psychonaut Active Idealist
Number of posts : 67 Registration date : 2009-01-16
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:47 pm | |
| Ofcourse the body is not screwed up, who said it was?
And no, it can't happen without drugs.
The only reason that drugs work is because they are chemically similar enough to the drugs that your own brain produces.
If you hallucinate 'without taking drugs' it is because your brain is releasing its equivalents; the most commonly experienced being during sleep. | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:40 am | |
| You just contradicted yourself.
Of course it's physically possible without drugs. | |
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-Psychonaut Active Idealist
Number of posts : 67 Registration date : 2009-01-16
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Fri Feb 20, 2009 6:15 am | |
| Your own brain produces drugs. Your day-to-day experience is one long sustained hallucination ordered in line with sensory data. Drugs are responsible for the production of this hallucination.
Please quote two contradictory statements. | |
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Dako Active Idealist
Number of posts : 99 Registration date : 2009-02-08
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Fri Feb 20, 2009 1:14 pm | |
| I've never used meth. Is this the place to ask about this? What is it like? | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:07 pm | |
| - -Psychonaut wrote:
- Your own brain produces drugs. Your day-to-day experience is one long sustained hallucination ordered in line with sensory data. Drugs are responsible for the production of this hallucination.
Please quote two contradictory statements. You yourself strongly suggested that 'drugs' means chemicals deliberately introduced into the body and not for nourishment, which is a good definition according to my Drugs Across Cultures uni course. It's in these two statements: - Quote :
- The only reason that drugs work is because they are chemically similar enough to the drugs that your own brain produces.
If you hallucinate 'without taking drugs' it is because your brain is releasing its equivalents; the most commonly experienced being during sleep. If you can't see it then I'm sorry to say but you're a poor philologist. | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:16 pm | |
| - Dako wrote:
- I've never used meth. Is this the place to ask about this? What is it like?
It's like the buzz you get from smoking a strong cigarette if you haven't smoked for a long time, but cleaner, stronger and much longer lasting. No head spin/sickness either. But the comedown/hangover's a bitch. | |
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Impious Potential Contributor
Number of posts : 42 Age : 43 Location : Sydney Registration date : 2009-02-14
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-Psychonaut Active Idealist
Number of posts : 67 Registration date : 2009-01-16
| Subject: Re: The art of Impious Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:24 am | |
| - Quote :
- The only reason that drugs work is because they are chemically similar enough to the drugs that your own brain produces.
If you hallucinate 'without taking drugs' it is because your brain is releasing its equivalents; the most commonly experienced being during sleep. Note the 'scare quotes'. Please inform me if you need 'scare quotes' and their usage within english language explaining to you. I will attempt to obtain a primary school teacher. | |
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